Comments on: Response To Richard Owens’ 2009 Copyright Consultation Criticisms

By: CCER Refutes Lawyers Opinion on Canadian Copyright Consultation

CCER Refutes Lawyers Opinion on Canadian Copyright Consultation — Sat, 24 Apr 2010 02:34:59 +0000

[...] filled by circumspect contemplation of the minutiae of copyright law.” (Page 4) . The CCER responded saying, “Mr. Owens’ criticisms and accusations represent a direct attempt to discredit and [...]

By: Canadian Entertainment Industry Begins New Media Campaign For Draconian Copyright Laws | Techne.ws

Wed, 21 Apr 2010 17:17:05 +0000

[...] Owens claims that many of the submissions were likely made by foreigners, but as CCER notes in its own response, it required a legitimate Canadian address, and it's unlikely that many faked such a thing. Even if [...]

By: chronoss

chronoss — Wed, 21 Apr 2010 15:06:59 +0000

OH and 90% said they want lessoned copyrights , go ahead ask anyone , go for a walk ask

WHAT DOES 50 year copyrights do for you citizen
and your gonna get the ….”nothing”
99.99999% of time

By: chronoss

chronoss — Wed, 21 Apr 2010 15:05:24 +0000

why isn’t someone start telling this lawyer that he is getting dangerously close to slander and libel agaisnt a multitude fo people
and misrepresentation is a class actionable type of lawsuit and he also may be heading to that.

OWENS in my opinion you’d a been better off shutting the hell up

By: NerdOfAllTrades

NerdOfAllTrades — Wed, 21 Apr 2010 03:56:54 +0000

Small quibble:

You wrote that “What is revealed in this manipulation of consultation data is that without the submissions sent using the CCER letter wizard there is very little representation of the average Canadian consumer…”

However, what was said was, in essence:
“Of the 25% we sampled, we eliminated any submission that was by an average Canadian consumer, and hey, look! 90% of the remaining submissions are in favor of strong copyright.”

So, that paragraph says that, within that sample, 90% of individual submissions by creators and distributors show that they are in favor of strong copyright, not that 90% of all individual submissions in that sample are by creators and distributors and in favor of strong copyright.

So, there is plenty of representation of average Canadian consumers even without the form letters. Our IP lawyer just didn’t consider our opinions worth taking note of.

By: Ninja

Ninja — Tue, 20 Apr 2010 19:30:35 +0000

I’m not Canadian but I wish you guys luck in the process. Not CCER but to all Canadians.

I’ve read TF’s article about this, both this response and Mr Geist response and they were very sensible. From Mr Owen’s comments we can reach 3 conclusions: he’s ignorant about the issue, he’s just voicing the opinions of the pro-copyright groups (therefore he’s biased) or both.

By: Fairdealer

Fairdealer — Tue, 20 Apr 2010 16:58:19 +0000

Amen